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	<title>Comments for Marcial Arts and Letters</title>
	<link>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com</link>
	<description>The blog of Marcia Merryman-Means</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 00:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The Deciders by marcia</title>
		<link>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2011/02/23/the-deciders/#comment-172</link>
		<author>marcia</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2011/02/23/the-deciders/#comment-172</guid>
		<description>Oddly, I could not click through on your link. It produced the message "Page not found." But navigating through the Press's site, I did find "Significant Rule Changes," which indeed is at the address you gave. Let me truncate the URL and see whether that helps: http://bit.ly/fEOqny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oddly, I could not click through on your link. It produced the message &#8220;Page not found.&#8221; But navigating through the Press&#8217;s site, I did find &#8220;Significant Rule Changes,&#8221; which indeed is at the address you gave. Let me truncate the URL and see whether that helps: <a href="http://bit.ly/fEOqny." rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/fEOqny.</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Deciders by Brenda Griffing</title>
		<link>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2011/02/23/the-deciders/#comment-170</link>
		<author>Brenda Griffing</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 22:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2011/02/23/the-deciders/#comment-170</guid>
		<description>I bought CMS 16 last year to bring an Amazon order into free-shipping range, ignored it for six months, and have been asked to use it once. Physically, it's a bit easier to read than the detestable 15/e, and the index seems to be moderately user friendlier. But I was not about to comb through it, old book to hand, for the sake of determining what random acts of arbitrariness would be revealed.

Help was forthcoming, however. Incomprehensibly, the publisher has undercut its own sales by publishing a cheat sheet listing major changes, which include the ones Marcia mentioned. To avoid a burdensome search &#38; compare mission, see http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/about16_rules.html.

I'm betting that most MEs have quietly decided to stick with the CMS 15 conventions, perhaps supplemented by the "About 16" rules.  There's a limit to the amount of time a publisher can oblige its freelancers to waste in the service of the bottom line of the University of Chicago Press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought CMS 16 last year to bring an Amazon order into free-shipping range, ignored it for six months, and have been asked to use it once. Physically, it&#8217;s a bit easier to read than the detestable 15/e, and the index seems to be moderately user friendlier. But I was not about to comb through it, old book to hand, for the sake of determining what random acts of arbitrariness would be revealed.</p>
<p>Help was forthcoming, however. Incomprehensibly, the publisher has undercut its own sales by publishing a cheat sheet listing major changes, which include the ones Marcia mentioned. To avoid a burdensome search &amp; compare mission, see <a href="http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/about16_rules.html." rel="nofollow">http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/about16_rules.html.</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m betting that most MEs have quietly decided to stick with the CMS 15 conventions, perhaps supplemented by the &#8220;About 16&#8243; rules.  There&#8217;s a limit to the amount of time a publisher can oblige its freelancers to waste in the service of the bottom line of the University of Chicago Press.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jargonliciousness by Doug Shivers</title>
		<link>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2011/03/01/jargonliciousness/#comment-169</link>
		<author>Doug Shivers</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 20:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2011/03/01/jargonliciousness/#comment-169</guid>
		<description>Since the postmodernist generator isn't really being maintained any longer, I think the best bet is to do some serious document translation here:
http://www.syddware.com/cgi-bin/pirate.pl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the postmodernist generator isn&#8217;t really being maintained any longer, I think the best bet is to do some serious document translation here:<br />
<a href="http://www.syddware.com/cgi-bin/pirate.pl" rel="nofollow">http://www.syddware.com/cgi-bin/pirate.pl</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Deciders by marcia</title>
		<link>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2011/02/23/the-deciders/#comment-161</link>
		<author>marcia</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 13:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2011/02/23/the-deciders/#comment-161</guid>
		<description>I started my life in editing when CMOS was 13. It indeed has its uses. But I tire of updated editions that offer changes such as those I named. They seem arbitrary--or else geared to force us to buy the book and relearn the rules. I don't argue when sections are added that address evolving issues. But why was it once correct to write "Illinois and Chicago rivers" and now it is not?  CMOS 15 garnered a whole heck of a lot of criticism among copy editors--not least for its impossible-to-read design. I will await the verdict from the masses. In the meantime, at Schlager Group, I am the decider. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started my life in editing when CMOS was 13. It indeed has its uses. But I tire of updated editions that offer changes such as those I named. They seem arbitrary&#8211;or else geared to force us to buy the book and relearn the rules. I don&#8217;t argue when sections are added that address evolving issues. But why was it once correct to write &#8220;Illinois and Chicago rivers&#8221; and now it is not?  CMOS 15 garnered a whole heck of a lot of criticism among copy editors&#8211;not least for its impossible-to-read design. I will await the verdict from the masses. In the meantime, at Schlager Group, I am the decider. <img src='http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Deciders by charles abbott</title>
		<link>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2011/02/23/the-deciders/#comment-160</link>
		<author>charles abbott</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 02:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2011/02/23/the-deciders/#comment-160</guid>
		<description>Marcia, so nice to have you back!  

CMOS is nice.  There was something about the new one--it was a link on aldaily.com  

it must have been this: 

http://www.bookforum.com/inprint/017_04/6675

= - = - = - = - = 

for many of us, we got into CMOS through Turabian, which was the sort of "gateway book."  

but enough about CMOS--it's just so nice to see that you blog is continuing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcia, so nice to have you back!  </p>
<p>CMOS is nice.  There was something about the new one&#8211;it was a link on aldaily.com  </p>
<p>it must have been this: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.bookforum.com/inprint/017_04/6675" rel="nofollow">http://www.bookforum.com/inprint/017_04/6675</a></p>
<p>= - = - = - = - = </p>
<p>for many of us, we got into CMOS through Turabian, which was the sort of &#8220;gateway book.&#8221;  </p>
<p>but enough about CMOS&#8211;it&#8217;s just so nice to see that you blog is continuing!</p>
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		<title>Comment on To the Contrary by charles w abbott</title>
		<link>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2007/09/11/to-the-contrary/#comment-145</link>
		<author>charles w abbott</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2007/09/11/to-the-contrary/#comment-145</guid>
		<description>Did you hear guy noir on "prairie home companion," constructing one correct subjunctive phrase after another?  It was quite impressive!  This was several months ago, so its a good thing I am just getting up to date with your blog now.  

H.L. Mencken hypothesized that the subjunctive was a rare flower of English (or at least of "American"), esp. from ca. 1850 to 1920, and that it was fast fading toward oblivion even as we writing in the 20s and 30s and 40s.  

Note that he was a keen descriptivist, without much of an authoritarian streak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you hear guy noir on &#8220;prairie home companion,&#8221; constructing one correct subjunctive phrase after another?  It was quite impressive!  This was several months ago, so its a good thing I am just getting up to date with your blog now.  </p>
<p>H.L. Mencken hypothesized that the subjunctive was a rare flower of English (or at least of &#8220;American&#8221;), esp. from ca. 1850 to 1920, and that it was fast fading toward oblivion even as we writing in the 20s and 30s and 40s.  </p>
<p>Note that he was a keen descriptivist, without much of an authoritarian streak.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gone Fishing by sadan jha</title>
		<link>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2009/03/09/gone-fishing/#comment-144</link>
		<author>sadan jha</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2009/03/09/gone-fishing/#comment-144</guid>
		<description>yes i agree with you Marcia. Sometime, people mesmerize us with the passion with which they speak about the past, about things that surround our daily life and about images which are part of our daily life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes i agree with you Marcia. Sometime, people mesmerize us with the passion with which they speak about the past, about things that surround our daily life and about images which are part of our daily life.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who&#8217;s Your Daddy? by Steve</title>
		<link>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2008/03/18/whos-your-daddy/#comment-122</link>
		<author>Steve</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2008/03/18/whos-your-daddy/#comment-122</guid>
		<description>ETYMOLOGIC!

Absolutely Correct!

Final Score:

A Perfect Score!

You got 10 answers correct out of 10 questions asked.
	


You're player 134538600 to finish Etymologic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ETYMOLOGIC!</p>
<p>Absolutely Correct!</p>
<p>Final Score:</p>
<p>A Perfect Score!</p>
<p>You got 10 answers correct out of 10 questions asked.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re player 134538600 to finish Etymologic!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who&#8217;s Your Daddy? by Bradley Skeen</title>
		<link>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2008/03/18/whos-your-daddy/#comment-115</link>
		<author>Bradley Skeen</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2008/03/18/whos-your-daddy/#comment-115</guid>
		<description>It didn't seem that hard--I got a 7 without even cheating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It didn&#8217;t seem that hard&#8211;I got a 7 without even cheating.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome to Marcial Arts and Letters by Marybeth</title>
		<link>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2007/06/28/hello-world/#comment-68</link>
		<author>Marybeth</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://malblog.schlagergroup.com/2007/06/28/hello-world/#comment-68</guid>
		<description>We here in "these here hills" have been busy gettin' in the wood for the winter and just had our very first chance to see and read Martial Arts and Letters.  A very fine blog indeed!  Matters of style and reference are of interest to "us woodchucks and critters", 'specially through the winter months.  I'm in your debt for finally understanding the derivation of the word cubical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We here in &#8220;these here hills&#8221; have been busy gettin&#8217; in the wood for the winter and just had our very first chance to see and read Martial Arts and Letters.  A very fine blog indeed!  Matters of style and reference are of interest to &#8220;us woodchucks and critters&#8221;, &#8217;specially through the winter months.  I&#8217;m in your debt for finally understanding the derivation of the word cubical.</p>
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